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Since: Nov 06, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:53 pm
Post subject: A7N8X reboots
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I have a new system here that reboots when it starts to get taxed.
Here are the specs:
A7N8X MBoard
AthonXP 3200+ (I think, I have thoughts, but that is what I bought)
2x512 3200 DDR Kingston ValueRam (I think the 3200 is right)
30GB, 40GB IDE drives
SB Live
ATI Radon 9600
It seems to reboot more when I have a game running, so it might be
related to graphics card, but I have all the newest drivers, and it did
it with the out of the box drivers as well, so I'm less inclined to
think that. I have the ram at 200 Mhz, and right now it seems to be
going fine. I'm leaning towards a processor problem.
Right now I have it clocked at 133 Mhz (bus I'b guessing, I havn't read
all the details yet). It seems to run fine at 133, or 100 Mhz. If I
up it to 166, or 200 (which it should be at) it reboots when I'm doing
more taxing things. I've had it do it while browsing as well (movie
dnlding and something else I think). If anyone can give me some ideas
as to what I should do, that would be great.
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Since: Apr 08, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:36 am
Post subject: Re: A7N8X reboots [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Could it be power supply related? Have you tried another power supply?
Sometimes, I've heard that you need a higher waltage power supply if you
have so many devices like CD Roms/DVDs,hard drives, all attached to the
system.
wrote in message
> I have a new system here that reboots when it starts to get taxed.
> Here are the specs:
> A7N8X MBoard
> AthonXP 3200+ (I think, I have thoughts, but that is what I bought)
> 2x512 3200 DDR Kingston ValueRam (I think the 3200 is right)
> 30GB, 40GB IDE drives
> SB Live
> ATI Radon 9600
>
> It seems to reboot more when I have a game running, so it might be
> related to graphics card, but I have all the newest drivers, and it did
> it with the out of the box drivers as well, so I'm less inclined to
> think that. I have the ram at 200 Mhz, and right now it seems to be
> going fine. I'm leaning towards a processor problem.
> Right now I have it clocked at 133 Mhz (bus I'b guessing, I havn't read
> all the details yet). It seems to run fine at 133, or 100 Mhz. If I
> up it to 166, or 200 (which it should be at) it reboots when I'm doing
> more taxing things. I've had it do it while browsing as well (movie
> dnlding and something else I think). If anyone can give me some ideas
> as to what I should do, that would be great.
> Thanks.
> >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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Since: Mar 22, 2004
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:02 am
Post subject: Re: A7N8X reboots [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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the 3200+ should be running at 200FSB with a multiplier of 11
The RAM should be in sync with the CPU that is at 200
Get out the manual and double check all of your BIOS and PIN settings.
If you are running XP go to
MyComputer/properties/advanced..........startup&recovery/settings and uncheck
automatically restart and reboot
Now when you have a problem you will at least get a BSOD with an error message
saying what the problem relates to.
Write it down and post it back here
peter
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>I have a new system here that reboots when it starts to get taxed.
> Here are the specs:
> A7N8X MBoard
> AthonXP 3200+ (I think, I have thoughts, but that is what I bought)
> 2x512 3200 DDR Kingston ValueRam (I think the 3200 is right)
> 30GB, 40GB IDE drives
> SB Live
> ATI Radon 9600
>
> It seems to reboot more when I have a game running, so it might be
> related to graphics card, but I have all the newest drivers, and it did
> it with the out of the box drivers as well, so I'm less inclined to
> think that. I have the ram at 200 Mhz, and right now it seems to be
> going fine. I'm leaning towards a processor problem.
> Right now I have it clocked at 133 Mhz (bus I'b guessing, I havn't read
> all the details yet). It seems to run fine at 133, or 100 Mhz. If I
> up it to 166, or 200 (which it should be at) it reboots when I'm doing
> more taxing things. I've had it do it while browsing as well (movie
> dnlding and something else I think). If anyone can give me some ideas
> as to what I should do, that would be great.
> Thanks.
> >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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Since: Oct 02, 2004
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:59 am
Post subject: Re: A7N8X reboots [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I would bet it is your ram. The A7N8X is very picky when you run it dual
channel @ 200mhz. I had to try 3 different pairs and finally found some
generic Supertalent sticks with a Xerox chipset that runs perfectly @ cas 2
@ 200mhz in dual channel.
wrote in message
>I have a new system here that reboots when it starts to get taxed.
> Here are the specs:
> A7N8X MBoard
> AthonXP 3200+ (I think, I have thoughts, but that is what I bought)
> 2x512 3200 DDR Kingston ValueRam (I think the 3200 is right)
> 30GB, 40GB IDE drives
> SB Live
> ATI Radon 9600
>
> It seems to reboot more when I have a game running, so it might be
> related to graphics card, but I have all the newest drivers, and it did
> it with the out of the box drivers as well, so I'm less inclined to
> think that. I have the ram at 200 Mhz, and right now it seems to be
> going fine. I'm leaning towards a processor problem.
> Right now I have it clocked at 133 Mhz (bus I'b guessing, I havn't read
> all the details yet). It seems to run fine at 133, or 100 Mhz. If I
> up it to 166, or 200 (which it should be at) it reboots when I'm doing
> more taxing things. I've had it do it while browsing as well (movie
> dnlding and something else I think). If anyone can give me some ideas
> as to what I should do, that would be great.
> Thanks.
> >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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Since: Nov 06, 2004
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:48 am
Post subject: Re: A7N8X reboots [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ram, that's a possibility. I checked the power supply by unplugging 1
cd drive, some extra case fans and such, and it still rebooted.
As for a blue screen error, it took a bit, but I finally got one. I
kept getting various other errors instead. Here it is:
STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC000001D, 0xBF803DC5, 0xF7A3EB38, 0x00000000)
win32k.sys - Address BF803DC5 base at BF800000, DateStamp 41127907
Hope this gives someone an idea. >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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Since: Apr 07, 2004
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:50 pm
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> Ram, that's a possibility. I checked the power supply by unplugging 1
> cd drive, some extra case fans and such, and it still rebooted.
This does not 'check the power supply'. The change involved for these
items, is tiny.
> As for a blue screen error, it took a bit, but I finally got one. I
> kept getting various other errors instead. Here it is:
> STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC000001D, 0xBF803DC5, 0xF7A3EB38, 0x00000000)
> win32k.sys - Address BF803DC5 base at BF800000, DateStamp 41127907
> Hope this gives someone an idea.
Try a replacement supply, and if you have more than one memory stick, use
one at a time, and see if the problem appears with each memory or not.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:05 pm
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Free RAM tester here if it helps.
<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.simmtester.com/PAGE/products/doc/docinfo.asp" target="_blank">http://www.simmtester.com/PAGE/products/doc/docinfo.asp</a>
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Kenny
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> Ram, that's a possibility. I checked the power supply by unplugging 1
> cd drive, some extra case fans and such, and it still rebooted.
> As for a blue screen error, it took a bit, but I finally got one. I
> kept getting various other errors instead. Here it is:
> STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC000001D, 0xBF803DC5, 0xF7A3EB38, 0x00000000)
> win32k.sys - Address BF803DC5 base at BF800000, DateStamp 41127907
> Hope this gives someone an idea.
> >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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Since: Oct 25, 2004
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:43 pm
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Could also be your RAM timings. Raise the values a little - look up ram
timings and try a real unoptimised setting.
wrote in message
> Ram, that's a possibility. I checked the power supply by unplugging 1
> cd drive, some extra case fans and such, and it still rebooted.
> As for a blue screen error, it took a bit, but I finally got one. I
> kept getting various other errors instead. Here it is:
> STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC000001D, 0xBF803DC5, 0xF7A3EB38, 0x00000000)
> win32k.sys - Address BF803DC5 base at BF800000, DateStamp 41127907
> Hope this gives someone an idea.
> >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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Since: Oct 29, 2004
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:25 am
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On 7 Nov 2004 05:48:05 -0800, " "
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>Ram, that's a possibility. I checked the power supply by unplugging 1
>cd drive, some extra case fans and such, and it still rebooted.
Nope, that isn't checking the power supply. Look in hte bios at the
5v. If it is below about 4.95, get a different power supply and try
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:11 am
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In article ,
hillco.RemoveThis@earthlink.net wrote:
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> >Ram, that's a possibility. I checked the power supply by unplugging 1
> >cd drive, some extra case fans and such, and it still rebooted.
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> Nope, that isn't checking the power supply. Look in hte bios at the
> 5v. If it is below about 4.95, get a different power supply and try
> again.
That is too tight a spec. The power supply itself is allowed +/- 5%.
There is a slight loss on the motherboard, and there can be some
measurement error. Seeing somewhere between 4.5 and 4.75V on the
+5V, might be cause for concern.
The 4.95 number would only allow 1% error, and you could easily
lose 0.05V in the cables themselves. That would result in most
power supplies being rejected.
Paul >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:35 am
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I'll check that with the power supply later, I'm at work now. I think
it's ram related though. I pulled 1 stick out, so I'm at 512 instead
of 1GB. I've had no problems, and even went to a game night a full
bore. I haven't tested the stick I pulled to see if that one has a
problem yet, but that is on my todo list here. I had the sticks in the
1 & 3 spots, and I pulled the 3. I'll stick that one in 1, and test
that for a bit. If that works, then I'll put both in 2 & 3 and see how
that goes. Thanks for all the help guys. >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:04 am
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> > Nope, that isn't checking the power supply. Look in hte bios at the
> > 5v. If it is below about 4.95, get a different power supply and try
> > again.
>
> That is too tight a spec. The power supply itself is allowed +/- 5%.
> There is a slight loss on the motherboard, and there can be some
> measurement error. Seeing somewhere between 4.5 and 4.75V on the
> +5V, might be cause for concern.
>
> The 4.95 number would only allow 1% error, and you could easily
> lose 0.05V in the cables themselves. That would result in most
> power supplies being rejected.
>
> Paul
Yea.. I am gonna back paul up on this one  .. Just so the op doesnt trash
a good supply..
Besides I have a feeling peter suggested the ops fix .. Do not reboot on
errors.. If that's not it then it's the ram.. >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:24 pm
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:11:21 -0400, nospam.DeleteThis@needed.com (Paul) wrote:
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>That is too tight a spec. The power supply itself is allowed +/- 5%.
>There is a slight loss on the motherboard, and there can be some
>measurement error. Seeing somewhere between 4.5 and 4.75V on the
>+5V, might be cause for concern.
It is more than cause for concern, it'll cause your hd to reset once
in a while. Maybe 4.95 is too tight, but under 4.75 measured with a
meter on the 5v of a drive connector means you have a problem waiting
to happen. >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:17 am
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" " wrote in message ...
> I have a new system here that reboots when it starts to get taxed.
> Here are the specs:
> A7N8X MBoard
> AthonXP 3200+ (I think, I have thoughts, but that is what I bought)
> 2x512 3200 DDR Kingston ValueRam (I think the 3200 is right)
> 30GB, 40GB IDE drives
> SB Live
> ATI Radon 9600
>
> It seems to reboot more when I have a game running, so it might be
> related to graphics card, but I have all the newest drivers, and it did
> it with the out of the box drivers as well, so I'm less inclined to
> think that. I have the ram at 200 Mhz, and right now it seems to be
> going fine. I'm leaning towards a processor problem.
> Right now I have it clocked at 133 Mhz (bus I'b guessing, I havn't read
> all the details yet). It seems to run fine at 133, or 100 Mhz. If I
> up it to 166, or 200 (which it should be at) it reboots when I'm doing
> more taxing things. I've had it do it while browsing as well (movie
> dnlding and something else I think). If anyone can give me some ideas
> as to what I should do, that would be great.
> Thanks.
A marginal power supply can be the cause of the symptoms you describe.
If one of the power rails collapses, or goes into current limit mode,
the computer will reboot.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:12 am
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Ok, I finally checked the voltage in the BIOS, and switched the RAM
chips to check that. With20 min of playing time in the WOW open beta,
I had no problems, but sometimes it takes a bit. I'll test more later
when I get time to get something running.
As for the BIOS, it says 4.94. I'm going to guess that is the problem
possibly from what everyone is saying? >> Stay informed about: A7N8X reboots |
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